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They have also established and settled in Rus, launching on the greatest at that time state, with Viking elite rulling Slavic tribes, and giving begining to great eastern State.  Islam reigned supreme in Spain for 800 years, Greece for 400 years and the extent of the empire stretched to as far as the gates of Vienna, Austria for 180 years. I Married Into This Virginia Tech Hokies Shirt. Plus, they ruled over Russia for 400 years (Golden Horde) . Islam has been part of Europe since 712 and no one can deny that unless he or she is a clueless racist inbred. So stop denying the fact that Islam isn’t part of Europe.

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Constantinople (Istanbul) not part of European culture? This is the exact argument of Hitler Yuliya, that to be culturally part of Europe you must be he genetically white. Even then, Bosniaks, Albanians and Chechens are Muslim as they’re culturally european. I’m not calling you a Nazi, Yulia (you’re Slavic and Hitler hated em) but I’m stating the criteria of becoming a Nazi and advising people to refrain from falling into it. I prefer to live in my own country and not move to Europe like most people from the vodka stricken ex soviet nations do.

Culture is not only food Yulia. We all do eat chicken, beef , vegetables, seafood and other drinks. A lot of Germans eat donner kebab and shawarma. A lot of Islamic people drink vodka and eat pork too. What would you say about culture then. I listen to Mozart. Am I European? My friend from France listens to Arabic music and but she is ethnically French. Also if you listen to Kanye or Drake, does that make you culturally African? thank you for entertaining me all this time, Ameer , westerners don’t want easterners. Stay where you are.

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Please stop dividing humanity into ‘us’ and ‘them’. There are already too many wars because of this. In the 21st century we should be wiser. Also, regarding traditions, English traditions are different from the French and the French differ from Germans. Now who’s the true European among them? Ameer, European culture evolved since 8 and 9 century, entering renesanse and enlightenment period. All those philosophical influences lutbit in opposition to religious doctrines of Islam. To give you an example, Islam has no tolerance to democracy and homosexuality. As oppose to the European culture.

Your remarks regarding Muslims rulling Russia are rather exaggerated – Golden Hords existed before Muscovy rised as a dominant power. And later, before Russians erased them from existance, they were long subject of Muskovy influence, as loyal servants. Fact that Germans or British eat Donner Kebab demonstrates nothing – cultural speaking kebab is a dish known to the Europe from pre Arab period. Does the fact that Iran and Pakistan enjoy McDonald’s, means that Muslims admire America and are servants and US dependents?  Following your very logic, that might be a truth.

‘Westerners don’t want easterners’ – that proves the Nazi logic again. Please refrain from racism. Won’t take you far in this century. Islam spreaded as far as ‘ gates of Viena’. Interesting thesis, given that there was 450 km between Viena and Ottoman Empire border. I Married Into This Virginia Tech Hokies Shirt, they were well known from religious tolerance, given that they allowed preaching other religions, as long as all were subject of Sultan. Dear Bartosz, many western nations may behave the way you stated but this idea of democracy and toleration for homosexuality became common after WW2. Before that you know well what nasty things the west did in the world (slavery, genocide of indigenous people, Nazism). Doesn’t this refute your claim of the idea of western culture propping uo during the 8th and 9th centuries? Also, my point is ‘european isn’t culture’, its a geographic term and muslims are europeans considering they’ve had considerable influence their since 712